From Hell To Veins

March 23, 2010

No Vaccines? No Health Care.

Latest Update:
It’s truly sad that I have been VINDICATED ONCE AGAIN. I really don’t ‘get off’ on having to ask YOU, the reader. to scroll down to the comment section and read the comments from the people who attacked me, this blog, when I posted ‘NO VACCINES NO HEATH CARE’. Before you do that, read the next paragraphs below. You’ll learn how the AMA’s recent proclamation to having EXPERIMENTAL vaccines FORCED on the public, not only vindicates my original post BUT, makes the title inaccurate AND NOW SHOULD READ… NO ‘EXPERIMENTAL’ VACCINES! NO HEALTH CARE!

The healthcare bill (in a nutshell) was designed for health insurance companies to be ‘forced’ onto the public so, EVERYONE would get UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE, fully implemented in a couple years from now by 2014. The idea sounds very ‘HAPPY EVER AFTER’ and, people like those who attacked me in the comment section, bought the ‘fairy tale’ hook, line and sinker. The authors of those attacking comments represented a FALSE ‘belief’ that if a “No Vaccines, No Health Care” policy wasn’t written into the bill itself, that the FORCING of vaccines onto the public in order to get health care, SIMPLY DID NOT EXIST. I explained that this belief was a ‘catastrophic‘ mistake being made by those who believed and pushed this belief. As I have always stated, if you ACTUALLY READ THE HEALTHCARE BILL it’s glaringly obvious that the healthcare GIVEN is based off of GUIDELINES set by these health insurance companies. So, once this is understood, the next obvious question to be asked is, where do health insurance companies GET THEIR GUIDELINES FROM?

Where insurance companies get their guidelines on what THEY will agree to cover for your health care is a topic all onto itself but, in a nutshell, if the question was a road,it would ultimately lead back to the pharmacological industrial complex. In the example of the healthcare bill, NO WHERE IN IT will a person get a holistic choice in their ‘universal healthcare’ provided by the state / corporate insurance companies.

Insurance companies get their recommendations from big pharma Rockefeller created organizations like the CDC who have ALWAYS been a proponent of ‘FORCED VACCINATION’. Other sources where insurance companies ‘create‘ their healthcare guidelines, are from are other Rockefeller financially controlled organizations like the American Medical Association. These types of organizations that ‘recommend’ health guidelines to these multinational healthcare insurance companies have come out and ‘recommended’ that the public be FORCED vaccinated with experimental vaccines.

So, in light of this mindset, it’s even worse than I originally posted. It doesn’t take ANY imagination to clearly see that, if these multinational insurance companies who represent the ‘healthcare’ bill’ adopted these ‘recommendations’ as GUIDELINES then, it becomes quite obvious that when 2014 rolls around and you’re dependent on this so-called universal healthcare system, you maybe required to give big pharma your veins for experimentation purposes OR, ELSE, you will NOT get whatever ‘treatment’ you went to the hospital / clinic for in the first place.
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SEE UPDATE It makes some of the people who commented on this post and, the so-called ‘health care myth’ website they all came from, look rather foolish! ALSO, see ‘Forced Vaccinations Rears It’s Ugly Head Again’. Conditioning the public.? Now, the military is getting into the act of of FORCED flu vaccinations.

As time went on, after this original post, the foolish people who bought into the pure garbage that the health care misinfo website at ‘The Slate’ sold them on have FINALLY FIGURED OUT that the government ain’t giving those in need, FREE health care. Oh yeah, it will be ‘UNIVERSAL’ alright. Universal racketeering by the elite and eugenicists.
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-Original Post-
A message to the PRO federal health care / insurance company lobbying KOOKS who have been chiming in from PRO health care ‘misinfo sites’…

It’s rather silly actually.
The pro health care bill camp has been so badly beaten up in the court of public opinion that they are looking for ANYTHING they can grab a hold of before completely going down with the Titanic. The only people this camp of ‘RABID’ supporters have left are a very small percentage of misinformed individuals OR special interest groups i.e. people invested with insurance companies, just for starters. Does it really come as any surprise that THIS SAME GROUP of rabid so-called health care ‘reformers’ just so happen to be EQUALLY RABID VACCINE PUSHERS who are hell bent on spreading DISINFO that the health care bill can in NO WAY facilitate a mandatory vaccine policy? No it shouldn’t. The latter of this group have WRONGLY chosen the ‘mandatory vaccine’ issue as one of those so-called ‘straws’ on which to engage in a disinfo campaign on the web. This group knows full well that a mandatory vaccine policy within this NEW system DOES NOT HAVE TO BE WRITTEN INTO THE BILL ITSELF. They know full well that the insurance companies that ARE TIED INTO THIS BILL can write ANY POLICY (ie COVERAGE) they chose to meet the new health care GUIDELINES, which will be played out in the years to come. If I may turn the tables, if what I just wrote is WRONG, SHOW ME IN THE BILL where insurance companies are FORBIDDEN to do so!

This group knows full well WHEN the CDC demands mandatory vaccines ALL THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS TO DO IS ‘RETROACTIVELY’ SET THE GUIDELINE FOR THE INSURANCE COMPANIES. The insurance companies will simply incorporate this ‘GUIDELINE’ into their volumes of other guidelines. There are NO magic tricks here, it’s that simple.

Also, if physicians being fined for such things as NOT having patients 100% vaccinated is so far fetched, why then is the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons suing the U.S. government over the health care bill? Doctors being fined for vaccination schedules is ONLY the tip of the iceberg for meeting future health care reform guidelines. Pro Health Care Reform Inc. is counting on YOU not knowing ALL OF THE ABOVE!

THE GIG’S UP!!!

If you want to go to a TRUE Health Care MYTH BUSTERS website this one UPDATED http://www.aapsonline.org/newsoftheday/00category/mythbusters
was put up by health professionals and health professionals are on there discussing it. It has 33 ‘reform’ myths right now and growing. HOWEVER, issues such as vaccines and implantable microchips for electronic medical record (EMR) purposes will be GUIDELINE ISSUES RELATED TO BUT, OUTSIDE OF THE HEALTH CARE BILL. Pro health care bill disinfo sites are ‘claiming’ the implant chip idea is a MYTH because people are claiming it’s for brian chipping. That’s how desperate they are in trying to BS you!

Would Vaccinations be Mandatory?
The Federal Governments proposed mandatory health insurance will mean mandatory vaccinations/immunizations. The Center for Disease Control (CDC) says that for anyone who refuses to keep up-to-date vaccinations, under the new health reform, you will not be able to obtain any health care you may need until immunizations are current.

For those who are twiddling their thumbs waiting for ‘NO TO VACCINES NO HEALTH CARE’ to be written in stone…

I had forgotten that WebMd reported this IDEA the CDC, IN FACT HAS, back in February. JUST BEFORE the passage of the new system…

CDC Panel Calls for Flu Vaccine for All
http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/news/20100224/cdc-panel-calls-for-flu-vaccine-for-all

Certainly you can agree that the staff at WebMd have ‘reliable sources’ at the CDC?


“The CDC almost certainly will make universal flu vaccination official U.S. policy for this fall’s 2010-2011 flu season, as it consistently follows the advice of the panel of outside experts, called the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP).”

Before the health care bill, congress would have to vote on a such a policy. However NOW, with the passage of the healthcare bill, these kinds of ‘policies’ can just be added to ‘guidelines’ that insurance companies AND THE PUBLIC MUST FOLLOW.

You have got to be thick as a brick to think if the government makes a flu shot ‘official policy’ THAT ALL VACCINE SCHEDULES will NOT soon follow.

With this NEW system, the government won’t even have to vote on something like this to make it mandatory for health care.

http://www.youronlineinsurance.com/health-insurance/will-fed-governments-proposed-mandatory-health-insurance-work-141/#comment-9

NO! MANDATORY VACCINES (AMONG MANY OTHER SUCH THINGS) ARE NOT WRITTEN IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL BECAUSE THEY DON’T HAVE TO BE. THE FEDS ARE DICTATING ‘GUIDELINES’ FOR INSURANCE COMPANIES TO FOLLOW IN ORDER TO ‘QUALIFY’ FOR THE NEW HEALTH CARE SYSTEM. SO STOP ASKING WHERE IS IT WRITTEN IN THE HEALTH CARE BILL!!!

Imagine getting revoked from having ANY emergency treatment after a car crash THAT WASN’T EVEN YOUR FAULT because you refused ANY vaccine. It’s here!

Also, under the New Death Care Bill doctors will be fined for NOT having patients 100% vaccinated.

OH! and look out for the next phony pandemic! You don’t want one of their dangerous genetically modified virus vaccines? Kiss your coverage good bye!

New Health Care Bill will Mandate Up to Date Vaccinations
By Caroline
Health’s A Choice

If the purposed no salt bill made me angry this one has to take the cake. Late Sunday night the Health Care Bill that I vehemently opposed was passed. I have often wondered if a government who can’t even run a postal system without going into huge debt can run a National Health Care System which comprise 1/6 of of economy. Along with the passing of this historic Health Care Reform there will be many new laws and regulations that will get the dander up of many Americans who value their freedom. One such mandate is the choice to vaccinate or not.
After doing research on vaccinations I personally have decided that I do not want any more. (If you are interested in the pros and cons of vaccinations you can read this post) For those of you that do that is fine….I value each individual’s right to choose. However, when our government places the National Health Care in place you will no longer have that right to choose.
No Vaccinations = No Insurance = $1000 FINE
Now it is no longer health care insurance ( and it never was health care insurance it should be called sick care insuracne) but now it should be called Blackmail insurance because it will mandatory to have this National insurance and if you decide you don’t want it that will a $1000 fine thank you. Here is the catch, to obtain heath insurance you will need to prove your vaccinations are up to date !
The proposed National mandatory health insurance has been the headline of most news media and on most Americans minds these past months. However, But, there have been many reports, studies and surveys that show Americans will most likely not comply with the mandate of health insurance as reported by the Insurance Research Council.
Most of us are concerned about how the government will enforce these new rules. (Can anyone say socialism/tyranny) Most Americans are concerned about how the government office will enforce such a mandate as regulation is only as good as enforcement. Also reported in the recent studies of the Insurance Research Council is that some people are simply irresponsible and look to others to buy their insurance.
Have you ever wondered about the affordability of this new national insurance?
When the government’s proposed order of making it mandatory for all Americans to have health insurance, many wonder about the affordability for the insurance. As the nations unemployment rate rises, more and more people will drop those expenses necessary to make ends meet.
However, under the new health care reform, those Americans who refuse to purchase health insurance could face monetary penalties. The fines speculated in the health reform bill currently being reviewed by Congress could reach $1,000 for offenders. The Congressional Budget Office has reported that these fines to offenders caught without health insurance could raise billions in dollars over a ten-year period.
Would Vaccinations be Mandatory?
The Federal Governments proposed mandatory health insurance will mean mandatory vaccinations/immunizations. The Center for Disease Control (CDC) says that for anyone who refuses to keep up-to-date vaccinations, under the new health reform, you will not be able to obtain any health care you may need until immunizations are current.
It was also reported that the new health care reform bill was submitted with a provision that those doctors and hospitals who are not meaningful users of the new reform system will also be faced with fines and penalties. As well as the Secretary of Health and Human Services will be permitted to impose more stringent measures of meaningful use over time. I am not sure what more stringent measures mean but it doesn’t bring thoughts of “raindrops and roses” or any of my other favorite things.
Freedom, the choice to choose, the absence of restraints on one’s ability to act and think and the power of the individual was one or the principals that this country was founded upon. I sadly wonder if my grandchildren will see the America I knew and loved. But as one friend reminded me today is that when you done every thing you can do then just remember that God is still in control.

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35 Comments »

  1. Where exactly in the bill are you reading this?

    Comment by Cristina Berger — March 23, 2010 @ 3:15 p03 | Reply

    • I’m seeing these questions popping up all over the place by people who obviously HAVE NOT read the bill. If you read the bill yourself will not have to ask these ridiculous questions. This is ONLY the tip of the iceberg.

      Have no fear Christina. You stay tuned to this blog. I will bring you the TRUCK LOADS of evidence as this saga develops. Count on it!

      Comment by nwqfk — March 23, 2010 @ 3:15 p03 | Reply

  2. I have been trying to tell my firends this and all they can say is, “Where is it, I dont see it in the Bill”. Why is it so hard for people to believe that his IS going to happen? Why do they have so much trust in our corrupt Government? Does the Government really need to have something else to control over us? ugh, when are people going to learn…

    Comment by Ashley — March 24, 2010 @ 3:15 p03 | Reply

  3. I don’t have time to read thousands of pages of bill. Give me a link and tell me the page number where you see this. I am a non-vaccinating person, so I am eager to find out if this is true or not.

    Comment by Cristina Berger — March 24, 2010 @ 3:15 p03 | Reply

    • I understand your time constraints Christina. You still need to’ take time’ to read the ‘over all jest’ of this bill and how it will work. A little time spent each or every other day for a week or so will be all you will need to figure out the ‘scam’. I will tell you why this important.

      This is MUCH MORE than just ‘a bill’. This is a multi-governmental SYSTEM that was just voted on. This bill is structured so that THE NEW SYSTEM CAN IMPLEMENT POLICIES THAT MEET FEDERAL GUIDE LINES IN ORDER TO BE QUALIFIED FOR HEALTH CARE.

      So, let’s take the idea of ‘No Vaccines, No health care’. Well you’re NOT going you’re find that statement written in this bill BECAUSE IT’S NOT NECESSARY TO BE WRITTEN IN THE BILL. This whole “where is it written in the bill” IS JUST A MOCKING BIRD TACTIC BEING USED BY DISINFO SPECIALISTS on people who don’t understand what congress just passed.

      The majority of these guilde lines won’t be implemented until (the feds own date) 2014. So, where is it written has NOT BEEN WRITTEN YET AND WILL NOT BE IN THE BILL ITSELF BUT IN THE GUIDE LINES FOR THE BILL. HOWEVER, the ABILITY TO IMPLEMENT SUCH A POLICY IS WHAT WAS VOTED ON. Vaccines are just ONE of the MULTITUDE of guild lines that the federal government is poised to implement.

      If ANYONE has ANY DOUBT that a ‘NO VACCINES NO HEALTH CARE’ can be worked into federal guide lines into this health care bill all one has to do is look at what the federal and state governments are currently doing with school kids. THERE IS NO LAW ON ANY BOOKS IN ANY STATE THAT A CHILD MUST BE VACCINATED IN ORDER TO ATTEND PUBLIC SCHOOL. If anyone wants to challenge me on that YOU PROVIDE ALL THE REST OF US WITH THE LAW. However, federal and state governments use ‘color of law’ to enforce it. Does anyone want to challenge me that this will NOT be expanded not only in this new HELL-th care system but to adults as well?

      This ‘system’ that was just implemented is much more far reaching than just vaccines. I see big pharma using this to end the use of people using dietary supplements like vitamins. And NO, THERE IS NOTHING WRITTEN IN THE BILL THAT SAYS THAT EITHER but after reading this bill ANYONE with half a brain can see the potential for that is VERY REAL.

      Comment by nwqfk — March 24, 2010 @ 3:15 p03 | Reply

  4. Twice it was asked and twice there was no answer besides “read the bill” well, I have read the bill and it is nowhere in the bill. Nowhere. Guaranteed nowhere. I will give anyone $1,000 dollars if they can state where in the bill it states people must have up to date vaccinations in order to get Health insurance. Simply meaningless assertion that it has a potential to be enacted at some future date.

    Look at this: Also, under the New Death Care Bill doctors will be fined for NOT having patients 100% vaccinated. It is not in the bill but it is in my fevered imagination so it is the same as it.

    Besides, what is the problem with vaccinations anyhow? Vaccinations have been the greatest boon to mankind since ever. Nwqfk might love to have polio but I do not want it, nor do I want my kids to have it. If he wants any of a number of formerly deadly diseases might I suggest Nwqfk go to countries that have no vaccinations, like Somalia or Afghanistan.

    By the way, the only reason I found this is because Slate illustrated it as an example of complete idiocy. So congratulations, you have fame for being a moron.

    Comment by ixzyl — March 31, 2010 @ 3:15 p03 | Reply

    • I maybe a ‘moron’ in your eyes and, I hope I am the first to inform you that you sir / mama are NOT the sharpest pencil in the box yourself.

      You must be proud of the way the U.S. government has handled things at the post office and now you can’t wait until they get a crack at dealing with everyone’s health. You really are a riot.

      You’re not the sharpest pencil in the box because mandatory vaccines DO NOT HAVE TO BE WRITTEN IN THE BILL in order for individuals to be revoked for health care. The bill itself is ONLY A FOUNDATION SO GUIDELINES LIKE VACCINES POLICIES can be written by OUTSIDE GOVERNMENT ENTITIES such as, the CDC, insurance companies (who BTW wrote the so-called health bill), pharmaceutical companies… But had you actually READ THE BILL dumb ass, that would have been self evident. The bill states that the fundamentals themselves won’t be totally in place until 2018. Fine print such as vaccine policies will be mandated by the CDC and outlined by insurance companies. IT DOESN’T HAVE TO BE IN THE BILL!!!

      What’s wrong with vaccines? What’s right with vaccines? I can’t write you the entire encyclopedia on it in this post. Just keep taking them.

      One last thing… You prove to me your unscientific statement that vaccines was the biggest boon since, what? Prove to me it was vaccines and NOT infrastructure like potable water, sanitation, better nutrition, the population moving from an ‘old agricultural environment’ to a urban environment where modern infrastructure exists…

      You probably never bothered to check and see that the diseases that kids have been getting shot up with via a vaccine WERE OVER 95% WIPED OUT in the U.S. and Europe BY THE ABOVE before a vaccine was made available for the same population.

      But to hell with facts! YOUR mind is already made up.

      Comment by nwqfk — March 31, 2010 @ 3:15 p03 | Reply

      • Uh actually, imbecile, they were not. Polio was rampant before the vaccine, in the developed world as well as the undeveloped. You’re simply a big fat ignorant fuck.

        Comment by Mark C — March 31, 2010 @ 3:15 p03

      • So think you know Polio Mark?
        You fell for the ‘old reliable’ polio pandemic nonsense.

        Like a slow pitched ball I’m going move this to it’s very post and knock it out of the park!

        Comment by nwqfk — April 1, 2010 @ 3:15 p04

  5. wow ‘Mark C’ you’ve obviously done a lot of research. Let me guess, Dr’s office pamphlets? Great resource. If you had done extensive research, and not just the pro-vaccine websites who benefit financially from vaccine, you would know that vaccines are bullshit.

    Comment by Ashley — April 1, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

  6. So urm, where is it in the Bill?

    I’m sure since you seem so confident in your grasp of it and so confident that you know the bill inside out, it should take no longer to cite passages in the Bill than to write your long replies to the commenters here.

    @Ashley

    Where are the sources of your ‘extensive research’? Can you cite journal publications instead of websites?

    I do not think vaccines are good. But I do want evidence if they are expressly bad.

    Comment by voster — April 1, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

    • I’m no longer going to reply to this STUPID LOADED question “where is it in the bill}. If you ACTUALLY read and understood the bill you would not be asking such stupid questions. If you had bothered to search my blog you would find massive amounts of medical references. Since you would rather post babble instead of doing home work I have very little respect for your questions and every other lazy person that comes here with the same lazy dribble.

      Comment by nwqfk — April 1, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

  7. Sounds like there are a whole lot of candidates for Darwin awards around here.
    YES, BY ALL MEANS, don’t take the polio, or any other vaccine; you may well get some dread medieval disease and die when you are 25 (or your kid may die when she is 18 months). But your liberty will have been preserved.

    Comment by M. Carey — April 1, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

    • So let me get this straight, you think that ‘Darwin’ would NOT AWARD those who inject into their veins, and into the veins their children known toxic contaminates such as mercury, aluminum, formaldehyde, viruses, live viruses, cancer viruses, genetically modified viruses, genetically modified DNA / RNA strands, just to name a few of the little nasties that are in vaccines, BUT WOULD AWARD those who chose NOT to do this? Uh, OK. I guess with that kind of logic, it’s anyone’s guess how civilization even ever occurred WITHOUT all these contaminates being injected into mankind’s veins at birth over the millennium?. Sure wise guy, we should have all been wiped out along,with the woolly mammoth. Tell me the truth. You’re really five years old, right?

      Comment by nwqfk — April 1, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

  8. Lord, help us to discard into the wastebin of rightwing thought that which we can not change, i.e., their uninformed, illinformed, distorted, twisted and inane claims

    Comment by ruauper2 — April 4, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

    • Most people with their heads on straight living in the 21st century have broken free and, are no longer prisoners of the right / left paradigm that the controllers have used for far too long to divide and conquer us with.

      Comment by nwqfk — April 4, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

  9. I just want to address the comment on the polio vaccine comment that it was rampant before the vaccine

    There was a mass campaign with pictures of people in “iron lungs” this was to put fear into people so they would take the Salk vaccine. However in 95% of everyone who is exposed to the natural polio there are few distinctive symptoms. In fact 95% of everyone exposed won’t exhibit any symptoms and only 5% of infected people experience mild symptoms such as sore throat, stiff neck headache and fever which is many times DX as cold or flu.Paralysis occurs in only 1 out of ever 1000 people who contract the disease.

    Several studies have actually shown that vaccines actually increase susceptibility to the polio virus. The paralysis researchers found it actually started at injection site as documented per Lancet. Research also indicates the polio cases skyrocketed after diphtheria and pertussis vaccines were introduced.

    Even if you are pro vaccination (which I am not) it is good reason to space vaccinations apart. Risk jumped 27 fold when children received up to 9 injections within one month after receiving the polio vaccine. Why…it is unclear but nevertheless not worth the risk.

    For those that truly want to educate themselves on vaccines you may want to purchase the book Vaccine Safety Manual by Neil Miller where I obtained some of this data.

    I have reprinted a page on this blog by Dr. Miller, M.D http://www.healthsachoice.com/vaccines/questioning-childhood-vaccinations/ for those of you who are interested in reading more.

    I have also looked at Dr. Andrew Moulden that I link to on this blog post. Interesting enough his website Brainguard.com no longer is a good link.

    We all have choices…at least for right now. However, before we go blindly like sheep off a cliff it would be of great benefit if one would do research rather than accepting what the disinformation lies that mainstream media spreads.

    Comment by Caroline Heinemann — April 6, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

    • Excellent research and commentary! The entire American Polio ordeal is one of my biggest pet peeves.

      Comment by nwqfk — April 6, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

    • We all have choices and we’ll continie to have them despite the unsubstansiated and grossly inaccurate claims to the contrary. I recall my wife describing the little children, the pregnant women, the teenagers struggling for life with the only hope they had at the time was the iron lung they lived in back in the days before we had the vaccine to prevent polio. For those who refuse to avail themselves of the protections afforded by vaccines I say go for it. Just don’t argue that a belief system based on personal bias and/or promoted by quackery is sufficient to justify otherwise.

      Like the claims our government demands we get vaccinated the use of statistics to prove or disprove a point has beome popular among a certain element of society. It is easy to do if you are selective enough and persistant enough in your choice of materials to be examined.

      Comment by ruauper2 — April 7, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

      • I recall THIS DAY AND AGE… Never in those days did children get cancer. Today many more struggle with that then they ever did with polio. Pregnant women losing their babies all because they took the H1N1 vaccine where the insert told the so-called health professional the risks to the mother and her baby. Teenagers struggling for THEIR lives all due to the Gardasil vaccine where their so-called health professional made them take the last two shots EVEN WHEN the same teen was BEGGING their doctor not to give it to them because they had already became so ill FROM THE FIRST. Yeah. I’ll tell you about the ‘good old days’ when finding a leprechaun was much easier then finding a child with cancer and the only thing we had to worry about was a virus that NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND caused a major epidemic until after the second world war and ONLY in the United States.

        Unfortunately NO Vaccine would have kept those few people off the iron lung. Today, like then, polio / polio like illnesses are STILL alive and well with new names given to them to hide behind by the very people ‘demanding’ we all get injected with their poison.

        The new names for polio are given on this blog and are EASLY researched in medical literature.

        Comment by nwqfk — April 7, 2010 @ 3:15 p04

  10. “The new names for polio are given on this blog and are EASLY researched in medical literature.”

    Somebody here must also think the world in flat if they believe there’s medical evidence that supports such an idea.

    Comment by ruauper2 — April 8, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

    • … and it’s quite obvious you believe the earth is flat because you sure didn’t do a lick of research. The best you can do is come up with worn out one liners and over used scare tactics to make your points.

      MSG is in tens of thousands of products masquerading itself as ‘artificial’ or ‘natural flavor’ YES, Polio is quite alive today and kicking and, it to is masquerading around by different names.

      Unfortunately this IS the real world.

      Comment by nwqfk — April 8, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

      • Ho hum, when you don’t like the message, kill the messanger.

        Comment by ruauper2 — April 9, 2010 @ 3:15 p04

  11. HO HO HO, Obviously YOUR attempt to kill the messenger went down in flames.

    Comment by nwqfk — April 9, 2010 @ 3:15 p04 | Reply

  12. I have three children, a group plan with BCBS. The two oldest have not had any vaccinations. BCBS will not include them in my family policy (which would carry the same premium if I had 20 kids or 1.) unless they are vaccinated. One month ago my auto-draft payment for the premium bounced, and I missed the letter from the insurance informing me of the problem. I did however get the letter informing me that I was being cancelled unless I paid the premium, plus 100 fee. In my panic, I immediately mailed my check (before the cut-off date) but had it returned because the cancellation letter said they would only accept a cashiers check. So now my policy is cancelled.

    Problem is, I have to re-apply. My third child was born under the previously held policy and had coverage even though he too has not had any vaccinations. When I re-apply, he will now be considered a Pre-Existing condition, and they will not cover him.

    It is not difficult for me to imagine these kind of policies being written into “rules” for insurance companies WITHOUT having to be written into law.

    BTW, what does a person care about this issue anyway if they get their vaccines and play follow the leader throughout their life anyway?

    Comment by tim — May 19, 2010 @ 3:15 p05 | Reply

    • Thank you SO MUCH for your report on YOUR OWN health insurance!

      When I wrote this little article “NO Vaccines? NO Health Care! I knew right from the beginning that I was laying a trap for the establishment. Sure enough they picked up on it and posted it on Scrib.

      Of course the NO vaccine NO health care stipulation does NOT have to be written into the bill itself. Anyone who DOES read the health care bill SHOULD be able to put 2+2 together and figure that out.

      Sure Tim, the No Vaccine policy doesn’t effect the sheep who go along to get along only to get burned in the end. No, it certainly DOES effect those of us who simply waqnt to be left alone and live in a TRULY free world.

      Comment by nwqfk — May 19, 2010 @ 3:15 p05 | Reply

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    • Thank you.

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  17. What a @%$#load of hot air. Line after line, paragraph after paragraph formed to create fear, anger, feelings of separation based on conjecture, false accusation, unsubstantiated allegation, rumor and gossip. You are needy to levels I’ve never seen before. When you retire for the night ask yourself, “is the world a better place for my having been here?”

    Comment by Robert Bennie — August 12, 2012 @ 3:15 p08 | Reply

    • I’m all out faith, this is how I feel. Illusion NEVER changed into something real.

      Comment by nwqfk — August 13, 2012 @ 3:15 p08 | Reply

    • Quite frankly I can’t get mad at you for feeling the way you do.

      Looking back at it now, since the day I posted it, it’s even worse than what I wrote.

      The fact the government itself has come out and ‘admitted’ that, just on the surface, this so-called health bill is nothing more than a tax. That FACT alone is so outrageous who would have believed something this sinister was possible in good old US of A.

      If that wasn’t outrageous enough, the Wall Street Journal miraculously reported the big health insurance companies actually wrote the stink’n bill and will be the primary beneficiaries of this TAX. Of course so too will big pharma. Which, by default, logic trumps the nonsense accusations you have made against my writings.

      A federal judge just recently ruled that if you (somehow) opt out of this TAX you will forfeit your social security benefits by doing so.

      No, you give me much more credit than I deserve, for, I could have NEVER made any of this up on my own.

      Comment by nwqfk — August 14, 2012 @ 3:15 p08 | Reply

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